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I spoke today with CBS This Morning about using risk based security to improve checkpoint operations at our airports.  Here's a recap of our conversation: 

Hawley said the conversation between TSA and lawmakers has been ineffectual. "Mostly they're talking past each other," Hawley told Charlie Rose, "as TSA had positive programs like PreCheck. But then the Congressmen see every weekend in their district how angry the public is."

"Why are they talking past each other?" Rose asked.

"Well, I think it really boils down to the administration (being the White House and DHS) has got to decide whether they want to have John Pistole make some changes, or whether they want to stand behind him," Hawley said. "But right now they're leaving him hanging out by himself where he just marches up with his talking points and the congressmen attack him. I think that the administration should say to TSA, 'Get this fixed. Take the prohibited items, reduce it, get another way to do the pat-down, start listening to the people rather than talking past them.'"

Click on the video below to watch the full interview

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